Honey

(cross-posted at Clintonistas for Obama and Obama--Criticism and Support)

That's what I call my paternal grandmother. Before I was born, my grandparents each chose what they wanted me to call them. My dad's mom picked "Honey" because she said she'd never been called anything sweet before. That wasn't strictly true, but she did have a difficult upbringing and an overbearing husband. She grew up as "poor white trash," and why my grandfather married her, I'll never know. Honey taught me a lot of things, as a kid and as an adult, but I don't know that any of the lessons were good.

Sheltered though I was, I learned about sexism when I was a child, and my first experience with it was probably the most hurtful - though not the most damaging in terms of academic or professional advancement - because it was the most personal. When I was a young girl, I slowly began noticing that my paternal grandparents treated me rather differently than they treated my brother. He was cooed over and treasured in a way I hadn't been, he was given attention and praise in a way I wasn't. The differences seemed stark. At first, I couldn't figure out why it should be so - why would I be treated differently when I was so pretty, so intelligent, far kinder, and more polite? What had I done wrong? Hurt and uncomprehending, I finally thought to ask my mother, who I could always trust to answer my naïve, innocent questions in the same way: Truthfully. Gently but bluntly, she explained that my father's parents were children of the Depression and had been raised with an old Southern mentality that men were more valuable. My brother was more cherished, more loved, and more important in the eyes of my grandparents because he was the male heir, and because he would carry on the family name, whereas I, as a woman, would lose it when I married (in the old South, marriage was a question of when, not if). This was a difficult truth for a young overachiever to understand because it was something which had to be accepted rather than overcome; no amount of success on my part would ever make me equal.

My paternal grandfather died in 2002, and my recently divorced aunt moved back in with her mother. In August of last year, she remarried, and my grandmother became extremely ill around the same time. We had two options: send her to a nursing home, or find someone who would be willing to care for her. The choice was clear to everyone except me; they were willing to send her to a home, whereas I couldn't bear the thought of locking her away - she was family, after all, even if I didn't know her very well. I decided to put my education on hold for a year so that I could move in with her and care for her. For nearly nine exhausting, miserable months, I essentially ran a nursing home.

I discovered that Honey was a petty person, and very possibly the most selfish woman I've ever known. Her daughter - my aunt - suffers from a serious mental illness, and she didn't marry for the first time until she had entered her mid-30s. In the meantime, she filled her loneliness with cats. When I was a young girl, she had three: Emerson, Tiger, and Marie, and they were like her children. For years, when that lonely, troubled woman went home at night, they were all she had, and I recall how deeply she loved them.

My grandmother doesn't like cats, though. My aunt had very little money, so she had to use a cheap litter which didn't clump, meaning that the litter quickly became soaked in urine and stank of ammonia. My grandmother was fastidiously clean, and she hated smelling the litterbox when she visited her daughter's house. So Honey enlisted a couple of family friends to go over to her daughter's house one day while she was at work, break a window, and steal the cats. Then they put the cats in the car, drove out deep into the country, and dropped them. The cats were domesticated and de-clawed; there's little doubt in my mind that they either starved to death within days, or were eaten by larger animals.

My aunt went to the animal shelter every day for weeks upon weeks, and then every weekend for over six months, hoping and praying that her children would be there. She still doesn't know that her mother killed them.

Within two weeks of moving in with my grandmother, she had her first heart attack, and I had to rush her to the hospital. Shocked and trembling, I stood outside the cath lab and realized how woefully unprepared I was to take care of a dying woman. Determined to do it right, I learned quickly and thoroughly. I fed her, I cleaned her, I kept up with dozens of medications, more than a dozen doctors, scores of doctor's appointments, and 14 hospitalizations. I learned the ins and outs of each of her conditions and medications. I scrubbed every bodily fluid and every form of waste out of carpets, sheets, and clothing. I was half secretary, half nurse - making notes, taking messages, scheduling, canceling, and rescheduling appointments, typing up and revising lists for myself, lists for my family, lists for the doctors. I was at the pharmacy nearly every day. I spent many nights in the ER with her, sometimes until after 4 AM; I spent even more nights sleeping in a chair beside her hospital bed. I spent days and days - and on one occasion a full week - sleeping in the chair by her bed at her house, either because she'd been experiencing strange symptoms that might have meant an impending heart attack, or because she'd recently had surgery and couldn't walk to the bathroom without me.

Honey was noncompliant, petulant, and occasionally cruel. If I glanced away for even a second, she would try to hide or throw her medicine. She cursed at me and fought me whenever we had an appointment (usually several times a week), and even hit me a couple of times. She expressed her displeasure at anything anyone cooked for her. I hooked up baby monitors so that she could yell and wake me if she fell, and she used them to call me constantly, day and night. By the end, she was hollering at me two or three times a night, disrupting my sleep cycle simply because she wanted me to tuck her back in (after she'd crept to the bathroom) or needed a cup of coffee or a glass of juice. She made everything as difficult as humanly possible.

If caring for her wasn't bad enough, dealing with her bigotry - and that of her sister - made everything seem so much worse. She was a hateful racist and a bitter sexist - "self-loathing" doesn't even begin to describe it. I can't count the number of times I had to hear her call Hillary "that hideous bitch" and Obama "that goddamn nigger". I endured months of listening dispiritedly to my grandmother and her sister (who was even more caustic, in part because she was brain damaged from a stroke she had in '03) talk about how Jews lie and steal, and how Obama is a Muslim and a "high yeller", and how Hillary is a lesbian who only had Chelsea because Bill raped her. Nearly nine months of cringing and gritting my teeth and squeezing my eyes tightly shut to prevent myself from screaming and cursing at a dying woman and her crazy old sister. Morning after morning, sitting in the corner of my shower with my head in my hands, trying to wash away the anger, depression, frustration, and disgust. Part of me hated her, part of me pitied her.

Part of me loved her, too, but probably only because I felt like I had to. It's funny the way some Southerners think - especially old ones. A lot of them are very sexist, even the women. In the first month of caring for Honey, I noticed that she never expressed any genuine gratitude. I hadn't taken on this assignment because I wanted to be thanked, but it stuck me as strange that she didn't seem to appreciate anything I did for her. For awhile, I thought she just didn't like me. She certainly didn't seem to love me the way she loved my brother, but I already knew that; what surprised me was that she didn't seem to love my aunt as much as she loved my father. I finally said to her, "I'm sorry, but you're going to have to do a better job of working with me. I know you'd rather have your son or your grandson taking care of you, but there's nothing I can do about that." All she said in response was:

"No, no, they shouldn't have to. Boys have more important things to do."

Something about that response was incredibly... crushing. My grandmother's opinion is of little significance to me, but the realization that such a mentality is still alive (though perhaps not well) was very upsetting. That was why she didn't appreciate me, and that also explained why she was always so resentful of my aunt. You see, my aunt had remarried when her mother was ill, and that isn't what she "should" have done. A proper daughter would have quit her job and put off her marriage - she would have taken care of her mother. My aunt neglected her responsibility. I didn't do anything special; all I did was step up where my aunt failed. My dreams were unimportant, and my sacrifices were not only unappreciated, but also unacknowledged. I had given up spending time with my friends and family, and I'd dropped out of school for a year. I had put my entire life on hold, and Honey saw nothing unusual about it. It was what I was supposed to do as a woman because all the men were too busy. They had more important things to do.

Around May 15th, one of my doctors finally told me that I had to stop caring for my grandmother. I had largely quit eating, and my sleep was so disturbed that it was doing me little good; I was walking around in a perpetual state of exhaustion, and I was undeniably depressed. The rest of my family had been begging me to send Honey to a home for months because they'd seen what it was doing to me, but I had been too stubborn. My sense of duty outweighed my common sense. But I trust this particular doctor. If he said it had to end, then it had to end.

I know this diary isn't political, but I've been thinking about my grandmother even more than usual today. I was out of town for awhile yesterday, and when I returned home, I received news from my aunt that hospice was being called to the nursing home, and that the doctor had given Honey "a short while" to live. We aren't sure whether that means a couple of weeks or a couple of months, but the doctor said it wouldn't be long. They're going to keep her comfortable. I'm still not sure how I feel about it. In a lot of ways, I know my grandmother is a terrible person; on the other hand, I can't imagine what it must be like to believe for all your life that you're inherently less valuable than others. Just as I know in my heart that I can be any man's equal, she knew in hers that she was inferior to her husband, her brothers, and her male coworkers. She was raised in an environment of intolerance and lived her life in the shadow of sexism, which she ultimately embraced rather than railed against. Her own sense of inferiority fueled her bigotry. She wanted someone to be beneath her because she felt so low - so African Americans, Jews, and other women became the targets of her frustration and bitterness.

I have to wonder, what sort of life was that, and who would choose to live it?



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Sorry for the apolitical diary. (2.00 / 28)

Honestly, I just wanted to tell someone about it. I've alienated most of my friends over the past year because I was busy with my grandmother. By the way, if any of you happen to know me in real life, you'll know exactly who I am now because these events are so personal and easily identifiable. If by some bizarre chance you recognize me, I would greatly appreciate an email rather than a startled, "Oh my god, you're so-and-so!" in the comment thread. Gracias.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:27:16 PM EST

Don't be... (2.00 / 5)

I'm sorry about your grandmother. I guess I'm lucky I've had two of the best grandmoms in the whole wide world.


We shall overcome!
by atdleft on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:31:05 PM EST
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Thanks. (2.00 / 6)

My mom's parents are wonderful. Well, my mom's dad is dead now, but he was incredible. He was my favorite person in the whole family. No one had a more positive influence on my life than my maternal grandparents, so I don't feel like I got cheated. ;)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:35:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh yes... (2.00 / 6)

And great diary! Your paternal grandmother reminds me of my paternal uncle, Uncle Jimmy. He has that same mindset, even though he left Texas when he was only 5. For him, women are "bitches & ho's"... That's why he's never had a relationship with a woman since he got divorced over 20 years ago. The only things he values are his liquor and his drugs, so he doesn't care if he gets wasted in front of his grandkids. He's such an embarrassment to the family because he treats his own mother like crap and he tries to start fights with all of us.

I guess some people just don't like other people.


We shall overcome!
by atdleft on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:36:38 PM EST
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Re: Sorry for the apolitical diary. (2.00 / 3)

Who was it that said all politics are local?  Well, your family is simply a refinement of "local."

She wanted someone to be beneath her because she felt so low - so African Americans, Jews, and other women became the targets of her frustration and bitterness.
It is something to keep in mind as the general election goes forward.  People who abuse others for a trait outside of the others' control have often been subjected to the same type of abuse themselves.


by Susan from 29 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:41:44 PM EST
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Re: Sorry for the apolitical diary. (2.00 / 4)

I dont know you, but I so wish I did =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:49:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

And you also (2.00 / 4)

seem like the kind of person I'd like to know. There are a quite a few people around here I sometimes wish I knew.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:51:18 PM EST
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You do know us. (2.00 / 4)

I hadn't given it a lot of thought, but I suppose the reason I like MyDD so much is that I have developed a set of friends here, and that includes you.  Since we moved here in Nov I have yet to meet anyone I would want to hang out with, and somehow this became the place I spend time with friends.  In Ontario we often had too many, since our place was where everyone came to, which was itself a notable tertiary benefit of moving.

I'm used to most of my friends existing only in the virtual world.  Other than the last period in Canada, we haven't had more than a handful of people we get together with physically for most of our lives.

I'd love to sit down and have an evening of darts/dice/cards, a day of sailing, whathaveyou with you and many of the folks here.  Maybe there will be the chance for those times someday, somehow.

But I do know you, regardless, and you are a friend already.

-best

-chris


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:45:26 PM EST
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Re: You do know us. (2.00 / 4)

It's really nice to know that someone else thinks the same way I do. I've lurked on the blogs on and off for years, but I never posted because I was so busy with real life. I didn't start interacting until a few months ago because I was always doing schoolwork or hanging out with friends. I still talk to some of my friends on the phone, but I rarely see them. Even now that my grandmother is out of the house, I've remained fairly reclusive; I've grown unaccustomed to leaving my house for extended periods of time, which is unhealthy to some extent. Maybe that's why some of the people on MyDD seem so real to me -- they became a large part of my life during a difficult time, when I had few others to talk to.

I'm very glad to count you as a friend, Chris.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:55:32 PM EST
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Hey, what are friends for? (2.00 / 4)

My entire blogolife spans about eight months (though I've known about them since inception, ten years ago it was all technogeeks exchanging warez sites, which bores me to death).  I like the way they have evolved in this context - they're really just a more structured form of listserv conversation - which is what I have always found comfortable.  Of all the infosec lists I've belonged to, only two (fw-wiz and funsec) hold my attention much at all anymore. But there are dear friends of mine on these lists who I never imagine to meet in person, and the odd exception at an event is always a pleasant reminder that they have actual faces and stuff.

I do recommend getting out of the house from time to time, though.  My best friend lives with me so we have always had someone to have verbal conversations with (she's sitting here now) and we always have someone to go out with when the walls start closing in.  You may have to relearn some of those things, but it's worth the effort.  If you want to drop by the Tampa area there's a spare bed, beaches you can bike to and we could teach you how to play Euchre... :-)

-chris


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:50:36 PM EST
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Re: Hey, what are friends for? (2.00 / 3)

Can I come too?

If y'all want to drop by London of course, we have bad weather, bad teeth, but great theatre, night clubs and all night repartee. And I could teach both Chris and Sricki to play Bridge.


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:59:44 PM EST
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How good are you at Bridge? (2.00 / 2)

My maternal grandmother is awesome, and she was in London recently. I'll let you know next time she goes, and we can see if you're a match for my Gammy.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:07:54 PM EST
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Re: How good are you at Bridge? (2.00 / 3)

Now I'm scared

Does she use the Blackwood convention, or some other devilish Southern bidding tactic?

Oh, and by the way, I'm crap at Bridge. Better at Poker


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:15:10 PM EST
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I have no idea how she plays, (2.00 / 3)

but it can't be too devilish, since she plays with a bunch of old people. They're very naughty, though -- lots of old Southern Baptists who drink quite a bit behind god's back (and each others'). My mother and I both get along very well with wine, and maybe it's because my grandmother taught us. After she beats you at Bridge, maybe she can "learn" you how to like screwtop wine. She hasn't managed it with me yet, but perhaps you'd be a more apt pupil.

Poker I might be interested in learning. If I ever run across you, you could teach me that. If I want to play Bridge, I'll go hang out with old folks.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:21:25 PM EST
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Absolutely (2.00 / 3)

And that goes for the rest of you jerks as well (probably ;-).

London London - like "take the circle line to Paddington..." London, or one of those painfully bucolic burbs like Dorset or Marlowe-on-the-Thames?

If you're somewhere off that crazy London Underground map I may well take you up on it, someday.  I'm too ADD to do bridge, tho, but I can teach you a surprisingly addictive game with six dice that is great for keeping the hands busy while you converse over it.


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:15:23 PM EST
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I'll actually be moving soon, (2.00 / 2)

and I'll only be about 90 minutes from Panama City. Not a bad set up, being so close to FL. I won't have any friends, but the location will make up for it. I plan to spend a great deal of time at the beach.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:06:17 PM EST
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Re: I'll actually be moving soon, (2.00 / 2)

I'm not much for laying on the beach, but my son has discovered body surfing so that makes it fun.  shopping for a used catamaran atm - now that's more my style (banzai!)  the real benefit of it all is the water and sun, it's just good for the soul.


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:08:44 PM EST
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Really? (2.00 / 2)

Where are you going to be?  I'm moving to Tampa next week.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:28:12 PM EST
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Re: Sorry for the apolitical diary. (2.00 / 5)

My paternal grandma was awful to my mom. Sometimes I feel like Throw Grandma From the Train.


by Pravin on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:35:34 PM EST
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That was a great movie, though. ;) n/t (2.00 / 3)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:37:14 PM EST
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sricki, right now..... (2.00 / 2)

I wish I could give you a big old fashioned bear hug.

What you did for your grandmother was incredibly brave and selfless....I'm not sure that I could have done the same in your shoes.

You're amazing, kiddo.

(if any of ya'll out there actually do recognize her...give her an extra hug from Kysen)


by Kysen on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:50:34 PM EST
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***hugs!!*** n/t (2.00 / 1)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:05:04 PM EST
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Re: Sorry for the apolitical diary. (2.00 / 1)

good story, you're lucky the sock-puppet 12 dogs and whatever the rest of it isn't on now or he/she would call you a liar and claim you plagiarized the story and then TR you for it. Oh, wait it's the puppet of a BHO supporter so probably not...


by zerosumgame on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:16:49 PM EST
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WTF...? n/t (2.00 / 1)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:22:13 PM EST
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Re: WTF...? n/t (2.00 / 1)

hey that's the reaction I got from them when i told mine, just going off the history of that anti-democratic cabal.


by trytobereal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:34:29 PM EST
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A big (2.00 / 9)

{{hug}} for you.

That was touching and brave, and enthralling.


by Neef on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:31:21 PM EST

Families do horrible things to each other (2.00 / 6)

You did the best you could, and more than others did.  To this day, I get growled at when I even mention a political matter in jest at a family get-together on my mom's side, because my younger aunt, my mom's little sister and the person I was most eager to see when I was small (she drove a Porche with a fuzz buster!  You know how cool that is to an 8 year old boy?), was a hardcore Republican who strongly supports Bush to this day.

Yet if Aunt Suzie needed help, I would be there, doing whatever I could, because that's what families do.

All politics start in the home, and your story isn't apolitical, it's very much focussing on the issues that affect our politics right now: the generational split, the health care crisis, racism and sexism... it's all there in one form or another.

Thanks for sharing, sricki.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:39:50 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 6)

you are an amazing person and a powerful writer.

thanks for sharing your story.


by elie on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:45:56 PM EST

wow (2.00 / 4)

Sricki... I am speechless !!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:48:39 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

Very moving diary.  I didn't even know you were a goyl.

Don't give so much of yourself that you have no time left for you.  Save that for your kids, heh.  The


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:49:16 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 7)

-woah. that was deep.

oddly enough my paternal grandma was like that too. She absolutely adored my brother, and hated me & my sister. I distinctly remember my grandma hitting me  with her shoe; she always cursed at us in spanish and she had an elephant phone- she was such a crazy lady. you think 'cause she a hardcore mexican [being that they are more okay with dominant women] she would have been more excited having two grand-daughters; apparently not. maybe paternal grandparents are more accepting of grandsons cause it reminds them of their own son?


[virtual hug; hope things get better for you;]


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:53:21 PM EST

Wow, I never got hit with a shoe. (2.00 / 4)

Just switches, and both sides of the family were more than willing to smack me with those when I deserved it. It especially sucks when they make you go pick out your own switch. That's just cruel. ;)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:58:44 PM EST
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Re: Wow, I never got hit with a shoe. (2.00 / 2)

switches? is that a belt?

[no yeah serious question]


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:08:34 PM EST
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Heh, it may be a Southern thing. (2.00 / 2)

I never really thought about it:

switch   - noun
  1. a slender, flexible shoot, rod, etc., used esp. in whipping or disciplining.  
  2. a slender growing shoot, as of a plant.  


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:14:59 PM EST
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Re: Heh, it may be a Southern thing. (2.00 / 2)

damn. so like a stick-

yeah thats totally a southern thing; the belt was the weapon of choice at my house.


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:59:28 PM EST
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Re: Honey (2.00 / 5)

Powerful diary...My thoughts are with you.  IMO, it seems to be a generational thing, my grandparents were similar to your Honey in the way they viewed gender, race, etc.  It was hard for me to listen to some of their hateful speech, I feel for you..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 01:59:31 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

Sricki: I can somewhat relate to your experience in that my now departed grandmother shared some of the same attributes. I think you are spot on about the need to feel that somebody is "beneath" you if you yourself feel so worthless. It is a tragic by-product of thousands of years of socialization. Sometimes when you think about it in a certain way though you can feel hope that attitudes that have been set for so long have seen such change in the last century. Not to dismiss in any way the remaining very real "isms" that still plague our society but we have come a long way.


by wasder on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:21:45 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

I had a grandmother who grew up one of 13 barefoot red-dirt Oklahoma kids put herself through college, got a masters in biochemistry from Cornell, became an author, travelled the world, had the Eisenhowers over for dinner to her apartment on Riverside Drive, surpassed men all her life and she still treated her oldest grandson (me) with a degree of favoritism that was downright embarrassing.

Go figure


by wrb on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:25:16 PM EST

People are just different. (2.00 / 5)

For one thing, my grandmother wasn't particularly intelligent. For another, I don't think she would have been a particularly good person in any setting. The fact that her parents were pretty awful doesn't help either.

My other grandmother, while certainly not as successful as yours, was raised a poor girl in the Deep South, left for Atlanta the day after she graduated high school, got an excellent job, later moved back home, and made plenty of money. She wasn't a racist, either. She was just fundamentally more decent -- in every way -- than my paternal grandmother.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:32:58 PM EST
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Re: People are just different. (2.00 / 4)

I think however, there is something about poor southern culture that is hard to shake off.

She was liberal (woe to anyone who interrupted her nightly hissing at Reagan over the PBS newscast  during her later years) but her attitude to blacks wasn't completely resolved. As my aunt put it "she believes in equal rights but doesn't actually believe they are equal."


by wrb on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:40:03 PM EST
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Re: Honey (2.00 / 6)

My heart is with you.  Reading your personal experience reminds me of my grandmother.  She was a strong, efficient "old lady" who at the end, was bitter; I now recognize, through your diary, why.
Rec'd.
Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:30:09 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 6)

Thank you for sharing your story sricki. It must have been excrutiatingly difficult to live through and then write about your experiences. As I read it, I was horrified by the cruelty and hatefulness of your Grandmother's life.

As it sounds like a very abusive situation for you, may I suggest getting some help for yourself. While I suspect that you are a very strong woman, this sort of environment seems unbearably toxic, and would negatively impact anyone who had gone through it. I would like to tell you that I am constantly impressed by your writing and thought processess, and this admiration has only grown after hearing about your past year. I hope that you can renew friendships and seek out positive experiences for yourself. You deserve this kind of life.

I am struck, as I am trying to think of the right things to say to you, that CNN has one of their crawlers that says, "Christian conservatives are lobbying hard against an anti-bullying bill that they say would advance special protections for homosexuals in North Carolina". Kinda sums it all up I think. God forbid that we should stop being hateful to one another.

I hope that made sense and that you will continue to reach out for positive things in your life.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:40:56 PM EST

Thank you very much... (2.00 / 5)

And don't worry about me, I did have some help throughout all of it. You're right, "toxic" is a great way to describe the environment.

I hadn't heard about that NC bill. I wonder what justification anyone thinks they have for opposing it... nevermind, maybe I don't want to know.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:45:35 PM EST
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Re: Thank you very much... (2.00 / 4)

Good for you!

I will say that my grandmothers were similar to yours. Both were very sexist and treated my brother like he was a god. We had much more contact with my maternal grandmother, and while she was mostly sweet to everyone, she treated me very badly. I was such a strong little girl, that I think she must have thought that I needed to be shown how the world really was.

I am not certain why the christian right are against this anti-bullying bill, but I suspect that part of the bill protects gay and lesbian kids from being bullied. It made me think of your grandmother, and so many others, who need to keep others inferior and afraid. What would the world look like without bigotry? What kind of power would these people have without bigotry? I guess I have the kind of brain that sees connections all over the place.

You have given me a couple ideas for diaries (as usual ;-). I guess I have always seen gender as a paradigm or blueprint for all other bias. This not to say that sexism is worse than other bias, just that I think it is the pattern by which humans justify inequality, and that pattern becomes a mindset for how we treat others who are different from us. I hope I have time to write this and a few other diaries that have been floating around in my head.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:10:08 PM EST
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We'll probably never know (2.00 / 3)

what the world would look like without bigotry. I really think it's a way of bolstering oneself. Certain kinds of people have to have someone to look down on, and I suppose it's much easier to dislike people who look or act differently than oneself.

I'm sorry about your grandmothers -- my maternal grandmother has always treated me exceptionally well. My maternal grandfather was equally wonderful.

Please write those diaries. I feel like I don't read enough from you, and I'd be very interested in some of those ideas!


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:21:41 PM EST
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Thank you! (2.00 / 4)

I totally agree that people seem to require a sense of superiority over others. I was struck by Jesse Jackson and others, twenty years ago, talking about how poor people of all races have much more in common than is different. However, it is very common for people to hate each other horizontally, rather than look up and see who is actually oppressing everyone. I am always amazed by the poor white man who hates the poor Indian man who hates the poor Latino man who hates the poor black man who hates the poor white man. And how do all of these men treat their wives, daughters, mothers, and sisters?

My guess is that this is the paradigm that we all live in to some degree. And that violence, (power over another which may be emotional and/or physical), is used to keep us in this pattern.

For what it's worth.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:47:58 PM EST
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Re: Honey (2.00 / 1)

I had a crazy grandmother on my father's side. She came from Eastern Europe, or, as we used to call it, the "old country."

Not sure what made her lose her marbles--she had a couple of marriages. She was the victim of abuse in the first marriage, then she tended to abuse the mild-mannered guy she was with in the second marriage (my grandfather).

She seemed to have a lot of trouble losing her sons to marriage too.

She took a knife out on my aunt for "stealing" her son, and wrote letters to my mother's family saying my mother was a prostitute when my father started dating her.

I was really too young to know what was going on at the time. Just heard the stories afterwards.

Weird stuff, tho.


by Bush Bites on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:44:43 PM EST

Great Diary - the "Care Crisis" (2.00 / 7)

Perfect anecdote to illustrate a different perspective on women's issues. The Nation and other magazines published a study unearthing what one group called The Care Crisis:

A baby is born. A child develops a high fever. A spouse breaks a leg. A parent suffers a stroke. These are the events that throw a working woman's delicate balance between work and family into chaos.

Equal pay laws are all fine and good but advancing opportunities for women encompasses/requireds much more multi-faceted thinking than that.


by catfish2 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:52:25 PM EST

Thanks, catfish. ;) n/t (2.00 / 5)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:56:03 PM EST
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Wow. (2.00 / 6)

Just... Wow.

For a diary that's "apolitical", it is probably the best political diary I've read here.


by TCQuad on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 02:57:08 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

That is a sad ordeal.  I hope that your family can find peace.  The sins of the past twist people in ways that it is difficult to understand.


by rfahey22 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:08:49 PM EST

wow. (2.00 / 5)

just wow.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 03:34:36 PM EST

Re: wow. (2.00 / 5)

I second that.  Kudos to you for trying to do what you could to make the last part of her life better.  I am sorry she didn't appreciate your efforts.


by JustJennifer on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:03:03 PM EST
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Sricki (2.00 / 4)

You did good.


by futbol dad on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:43:53 PM EST

Thank you (2.00 / 5)

Thank you for your compassion, which compelled you to show such kindness.

Thank you for your bravery in sharing this post.

Thank you for your honesty in sharing these feelings.

I appreciate them and what you do.


by Falsehood on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:25:22 PM EST

That wasn't an apolitical diary, Sricki (2.00 / 5)

That experience, and your amazing ability to immerse yourself in it, yet remain honest and unsentimental, is what makes you such an astute commentator about politics.

For what is politics but these experiences of dependency and resentment, sacrifice and belligerence, suffering and victimisation, writ large.

But what a talent you have to look at these things with a clear eye, and describe them to others.

Isn't it strange that on MYDD, arena as it has been for so much vitriol and hope, so many conflicts and disappointments, somehow allows such a great piece of writing become the top recommended diary.

I could say so much, but I also notice how I feel a kinship with people here - strangers I'll never probably know because they live thousands of miles away, but friends I know in some way intimately because we've been through so much together.

This isn't a MYDD diary. This is literature.


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 05:42:11 PM EST

Thank you, Brit. (2.00 / 3)

Part of the reason I don't sound sentimental is that I still haven't decided how I feel. I don't know what I'll feel when she dies -- if anything at all. I've sent my father to the home in my stead tonight so that I can sit here with my bottle of wine and think.

Sometimes I think it's unfortunate that I'll never know most of the people I've become friends with here. But then I think, perhaps it's best -- it keeps me honest. For me, it's so much easier to be truthful with people I don't know. I'm actually a very private person. Had I met any of you in real life, I doubt we would have had reason to exchange more than two words. Better an open, intimate friendship here than a closed or nonexistent one in real life.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:00:07 PM EST
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Re: Thank you, Brit. (2.00 / 2)

Deciding how you feel is always a bad idea. Feelings aren't decisions. I think that's what we learned in the primary wars, and why there is a kinship from passionate supporters who have lost and won, won and lost, and then realised there was nothing to win but greater understanding of how different other people are.

Death and dementia is such a leveller. My daughter once said to me, about five years ago when she was only ten, that she doesn't believe in God or heaven and hell in the obvious way. But then she said something incredibly profound

She said that the last moment of your life lasts forever, and that bad people will have bad memories and effectively end up in hell. And good people will breathe their last remembering the good things, and end up in a kind of heaven. I didn't know how to reply.

But one thing is for sure, prejudiced, bigoted, closed minded people end up in a kind of hell. And though you may try your best - and do your best - to try to save them from this, in the end we have free will and it's our own choice.

Everyone rides their own road to hell, or otherwise. And after a certain time, even angelic actions can not save them.


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:13:13 PM EST
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Maybe I put that the wrong way. (2.00 / 3)

Perhaps I should have said, determining or understanding how I feel. As yet, I have no feelings about it one way or the other.

It's remarkable to think of a 10-year-old saying something so insightful, but if any would say such a thing, I'm unsurprised that she's your daughter.

I don't actually believe in heaven or hell. I'm a deist, though not really in the conventional sense. My religious ponderings are lengthy, complicated, and for another occasion; it suffices to say that I believe my grandmother's consciousness of her own existence will probably end within the next two months. At that time, I believe she will be no different from any other dead person -- from Adolf Hitler to Mother Teresa. That may sound like an overly simplified view of the human soul to you, but in fact it's part of an overly complicated view of god. As I said, I'm not your average deist.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:30:24 PM EST
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Re: Maybe I put that the wrong way. (2.00 / 3)

From Poker to Deism. My mind's spinning a little keeping up, but though I agree that all dead people join the same constituency of silence, I'm not sure that Hitler and Mother Teresa felt the same about themselves in that last, technically eternal, moment.

But maybe those are bad examples, and they both felt very similar things.


by duende on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:44:21 PM EST
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Re: Maybe I put that the wrong way. (2.00 / 1)

But the pattern and color with which Hiltler's and Mothers Teresa's , and Lewis Armstrong's lives shape and tint the future are quite different.

Even if no individual consciousness remains your effect on the darkness, light, joy, humor, terror & richness continue on.

It is not pointless


by wrb on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:09:37 PM EST
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Re: Thank you, Brit. (2.00 / 1)

Your daughter essentially captured Dante's insight.

Eternity is having to see yourself, clearly, forever


by wrb on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:03:54 PM EST
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A book recommendation for you, Brit (2.00 / 1)

Your daughter's insights are startling in their similarity to those of CS Lewis in "The Great Divorce", a book I highly recommend, that substantiates her premise in a very intriguing way.

It's a story filled with vivid imagery, of the author's fictional journey (in fact, a bus ride) from hell to the shadows of heaven. Oh, and the story has little to do with divorce - it's rather a play on Blake's "Marriage of Heaven and Hell".


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 09:21:25 PM EST
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The Internet helps people connect (2.00 / 2)

while the Internet is keeping us indoors a lot and probably keeps us from visiting neighbors more often, every once in a while you hear amazing things.

A C-Span caller this morning said she was terribly overweight for years and just kept to herself. But she lost all of this weight and the C-Span host asked her how she did it. It turned out she started going on the Internet and there nobody could see what she looked like, so she was able to engage in conversation with people and not just be the fat lady. Somehow that unlocked something in her, she was able to feel like more of a complete person than she had in years, and she started eating better, etc.

I've been struggling with how much time I spend online lately, I'm trying to come up with an Internet management system so I don't always have to be online and I can get my mind back. I bought a blackberry and that actually helps, it untethers you from your desk and you can go outside more.

As for how you'll feel when she dies - don't pressure yourself. My mother is a pretty toxic person but she can also be a fantastic, supportive lady. The problem is you never know which one she's going to be and when she's toxic it is brutal. I'm starting to accept it will never get better - I long believed that when she got older she would start being nice. But age is instead amplifying her quirks. It is perfectly OK if you feel relief when someone dies, it does not make you a bad person. Hope you know that. It's time for you to live life for yourself, to make the most of your life and strengthen the relationships you want to nurture, the ones that work for you.


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:16:32 AM EST
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This was very hard to read. I can only begin to (2.00 / 4)

imagine how hard it must have been for you. Your Grandmother Honey clearly belonged to a different era, a different place in this country. Some places in the South are still where time seemed to have stopped. I know you hurt is still raw from the way she treated you. But maybe in time, you'll able to forgive her and find some things that she might have done good.

Personally I'm amongst those who hardly knew their grandparents. My Dad's parents passed away when he was 16. Both of my mom's parents when I was a kid and we didn't live closeby.. I always wondered what was their life like..I would never know..

Anyway Good luck and hope you heal soon...


by louisprandtl on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:52:13 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 7)

thanks for this diary. I am glad you wrote  about it. Maybe you should write more?? I am caretaking my Mom who in many ways could be your grandma's twin. Inferiority, not-as-good-as, stupid and second class just came with being a girl. Today I fixed lunch for my Mom and her new caretaker--don't ask--and my Mom said the sandwhich was stupid. I laugh now. But there's a lotta pain and a lotta work behind my laughter. My Mom is who she is. I can't change her and I have set boundaries on her abuse. The sad thing is, though, when she forgets all that long-standing training she thinks I'm ok. One day I confronted her on something and told her it was hurtful. She got very quiet. A few minutes later she said, "I don't know why I say those things. They just come out. I don't mean it."


by linfar on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:55:27 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

Excellent diary, sricki. I already admired your writing ability, now I'm in awe of your talent. I also admire you for stepping up when so many others failed to make the effort. I know what that's like.

It's a sad fact of caregiving that too many caregivers never give themselves enough credit for what they did. I know, I am always beating myself up with what more I could have done instead of taking pride in what I did. I tend to shrug off compliments about it, because I feel like I could have done more.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 06:59:18 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

Interesting and thought inspiring diary, sricki.
I was blessed with fun and loving grandparents on my dad's side, and never met my maternal GPs, as they both died before I was born. My gran was a fishing widow, but accepted her fate and spent lots of time with her grandkids (they had a house at the shore, so we spent lots of time there growing up).
When you get moved down near Florida, please take a few afternoons to find a quiet beach and just go down and watch the ocean for a few hours, build a few sandcastles, and sort out your thoughts.
The ocean is a great healer.
Hugs, woman, you really deserve them for what you went through.
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:04:08 PM EST

You're an angel. n/t (2.00 / 4)


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:50:38 PM EST

Beautiful Diary (2.00 / 5)

Hugs for you, sricki. Your sweetness has always shone through your writing, but your sacrifice was beyond amazing. I could scarcely believe that it's been just this past year that you've been caring for your grandmother. When I first started reading your story, it so sounded like a tale out of the '50s. I couldn't imagine any young woman today being in your shoes and making the choices you've made.

Your story poses a striking contrast between the way your grandmother treated you, and the way you've treated her. This may seem counter-intuitive at first, but have you ever wondered whether those earlier experiences had a role to play in shaping your choices later in life? I strongly believe that those most capable of compassion and empathy are the product of much hurt, pain and sensitivity themselves.

May I offer the opinion that your months of selfless devotion - although offered to someone clearly unappreciative of these - were never wasted. Every action we take today serves to mold us into the person we will be tomorrow. You are kinder, gentler, more loving, more noble for the love you've so freely given your grandmother - and these virtues will protect you and stand you in good stead for the rest of your life.


It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:50:39 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

It's the world she was raised in.

My parents couldn't see an interacial couple without wincing.

In my highschool band were two folks of color, and my dad made comments that STILL make my skin crawl.

Yet, my dad was inches away from being nominated for the CMOH, he pulled two soldiers under his command out of burning tank destroyer in WW2. AFTER he had been shot in the back. Then he ran back and got the third guy out. Silver star, bronze star, two purple hearts. He limped the rest of this life, cause the bullet took out some of his spine.

He had more guts and grit then I will have if I live to be twice his age. A toughness I can't even aspire to.

In the end of their years, they both mellowed, but I could see, they still struggled with their upbringing.

But, they were raised in a time and a place where the N-word was what you used to call black folks, at least behind closed doors.

His grandaughter has an Iranian boyfriend who I just love, and when I asked her about gay marriage issues, she is like "who cares about that? None of my buds...."

Generations change, even if we still have a ways to go.

Rec'ed btw.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:34 PM EST

sricki, I don't know you, but I feel like (2.00 / 5)

I do. The world is a much better place because you are in it. I admire your courage, your compassion, and your intellect. Thanks for this peek into your soul.


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 07:56:20 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 3)

I admire you on so many levels. Your willingness to put your life on hold and step in and care for Grandma, "she was family, after all". As a nurse, the most difficult job I ever had was working in a nursing home, but I got to go home after 8 hours and at least most of the residents were nice; I can't imagine the intensity of a 24/7 responsibility with a mean patient, to me, you are a nurse's nurse! Last but not least-you are a wonderful writer and I only see good things in your future. And like so many others here, you are a person I would like to know-you are kind.


by Roberta on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 08:12:40 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 4)

I really admire you for taking care of Honey.  You also have to be admired for acknowledging when it became too much for you.

I do have to think she appreciated what you did for her in her own way (even if taking care of her was "your responsibility").  There had to be something in her that did.  And if not, well I appreciate it.  It's damn hard work.

I took care of my grandmother as she was dying from pancreatic cancer and it was one of the hardest things I ever did.  I had a much different experience--Grammy was a stubborn Norwegian who was funny as all hell and I loved her with everything I had.  Your diary made me miss her a whole lot.  

Hugs, sricki :)


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 11:40:29 PM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 3)

Sricki, I want to thank you for doing what most of us could never do.  Good on you and thank you for trying to make one human being's life a little easier toward the end (even though she didn't appreciate it).  I wish more people were like you.


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:08:35 AM EST

Re: Honey (none / 0)


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:19:28 AM EST

Oops - meant to say, you owe yourself and (2.00 / 3)

the world a favor:

I had given up spending time with my friends and family, and I'd dropped out of school for a year. I had put my entire life on hold, and Honey saw nothing unusual about it. It was what I was supposed to do as a woman because all the men were too busy. They had more important things to do.

You are clearly a generous person. You will be able to be even more generous if you un-pause that life of yours and revive the friendships and goals that have suffered recently. Take care of yourself, nurture yourself, you owe it to the world to be selfish at least for a while.


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:25:23 AM EST

Re: Honey (2.00 / 3)

I admire and respect you more than ever. I wish I could give you a big ole hug. Hope I get to meet you some day!


Welcome to a landslide WITH white working class, latinos, women and holding on sweeties!!!
by spacemanspiff on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 12:32:16 AM EST


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